Gallery Links
Users Online
· Guests Online: 26

· Members Online: 0

· Total Members: 5,028
· Newest Member: mangeley
Forum Threads
Theme Switcher
Switch to:
Last Seen Users
· Auratus00:41:10
· blaauw700:45:58
· RE Niks00:46:33
· brundlefly01:27:58
· Mario Renden01:39:39
· Juergen Peters01:44:25
· ESant01:57:22
· Andrzej02:01:13
· Bernard Pert...02:03:13
· Isidro03:16:22
Latest Photo Additions
View Thread
Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
Who is here? 1 guest(s)
 Print Thread
Tachinidae:Siphona geniculata (male) ?
skrylten
#1 Print Post
Posted on 08-09-2013 20:52
User Avatar

Member

Location: Sweden
Posts: 1464
Joined: 03.10.11

2013-08-04, Degeberga Sweden, ca 5 mm

I know Siphona females are difficult(impossible) ...
Edit: Male !

The palp of this one doesn´t really fit geniculata .
Edit: Wasn´t aware geniculata in Andersen´s key would be cristata.
skrylten attached the following image:


[117Kb]
Edited by skrylten on 09-09-2013 06:19
 
skrylten
#2 Print Post
Posted on 08-09-2013 20:53
User Avatar

Member

Location: Sweden
Posts: 1464
Joined: 03.10.11

2
skrylten attached the following image:


[89.46Kb]
 
skrylten
#3 Print Post
Posted on 08-09-2013 20:53
User Avatar

Member

Location: Sweden
Posts: 1464
Joined: 03.10.11

3
skrylten attached the following image:


[123.17Kb]
 
skrylten
#4 Print Post
Posted on 08-09-2013 20:54
User Avatar

Member

Location: Sweden
Posts: 1464
Joined: 03.10.11

4
skrylten attached the following image:


[129.89Kb]
 
skrylten
#5 Print Post
Posted on 08-09-2013 20:54
User Avatar

Member

Location: Sweden
Posts: 1464
Joined: 03.10.11

5
skrylten attached the following image:


[118.26Kb]
 
skrylten
#6 Print Post
Posted on 08-09-2013 20:55
User Avatar

Member

Location: Sweden
Posts: 1464
Joined: 03.10.11

6
skrylten attached the following image:


[55.9Kb]
 
skrylten
#7 Print Post
Posted on 08-09-2013 20:55
User Avatar

Member

Location: Sweden
Posts: 1464
Joined: 03.10.11

7
skrylten attached the following image:


[58.33Kb]
 
John Carr
#8 Print Post
Posted on 08-09-2013 22:51
User Avatar

Super Administrator

Location: Massachusetts, USA
Posts: 10387
Joined: 22.10.10

You wrote female, but image 5 looks male to me. (I'm not an expert on sexing Cyclorrhapha.)
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31715949@N00
skrylten
#9 Print Post
Posted on 09-09-2013 06:15
User Avatar

Member

Location: Sweden
Posts: 1464
Joined: 03.10.11

Thanks John !

That should make it a male S. geniculata ( If urbana in Andersen´s key = geniculata ? )

/Leif K
 
ChrisR
#10 Print Post
Posted on 09-09-2013 08:38
User Avatar

Super Administrator

Location: Reading, England
Posts: 7703
Joined: 12.07.04

Yeah, you have to be careful to correct Andersen's key with regard to Siphona urbana/geniculata/cristata. While Andersen's treatment was strictly correct, Tschorsnig, Herting & O'Hara successfully petitioned for the name to be retained due to common usage. S. geniculata was conserved by the replacement of the lectotype with a neotype.

See ICZN case 3084 & opinion 1975 Smile

Andersen's urbana = current geniculata
Andersen's geniculata = current cristata
Edited by ChrisR on 09-09-2013 08:40
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London.
 
http://tachinidae.org.uk
Jump to Forum:
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
Tachinidae (NL) Diptera (adults) 2 18-06-2025 08:38
male Hybomitra distinguenda? (4 pics) Diptera (adults) 4 16-06-2025 19:44
Tachinidae - Gonia picea? (5 pics) Diptera (adults) 5 16-06-2025 18:44
Tachinidae - uncertain genus Diptera (adults) 2 16-06-2025 16:44
Tachinidae - Peleteria? Overviews 2 16-06-2025 16:35
Date and time
18 June 2025 21:11
Login
Username

Password



Not a member yet?
Click here to register.

Forgotten your password?
Request a new one here.
Temporary email?
Due to fact this site has functionality making use of your email address, any registration using a temporary email address will be rejected.

Paul
Donate
Please, help to make
Diptera.info
possible and enable
further improvements!
Latest Articles
Syrph the Net
Those who want to have access to the Syrph the Net database need to sign the
License Agreement -
Click to Download


Public files of Syrph the Net can be downloaded HERE

Last updated: 25.08.2011
Shoutbox
You must login to post a message.

02.06.25 18:26
Anyone has "Chironomidae of the Holarctic region. Keys and diagnoses. Part 3. Adult Males Entomologica Scandinavica Supplement 34"? smolwaarneming@gma
il.com

28.05.25 20:57
I have Russian Coenosia. nikita6510@ya.ru

28.05.25 12:25
Is someone able to share with me "A key to the Russian species of the genus Coenosia"?

08.05.25 18:22
I have

03.05.25 08:35
Does someone has a scan of Nartshuk E.P. 2003. Key to families of Diptera (Insecta) of the fauna of Russian and adjacent countries. Proceedings of the Zoological Institute Vol. 294: 1-252 for me?

10.03.25 18:02
We are looking for a new webmaster https://diptera.in
fo/forum/viewthrea
d.php?thread_id=11
5023&rowstart=20

04.03.25 17:10
Please use the link posted below to remember and honour Paul, if you wish

04.03.25 17:09
I propose in respect to him not to post on trivial matters until his cremation, March 8th

04.03.25 17:08
For those unaware: Paul, the owner, past away two days ago. https://diptera.in
fo/forum/viewthrea
d.php?thread_id=11
5023

19.12.24 12:33
Received missing pages from @royensoc.co.uk, free download available for a few days: https://we.tl/t-vk
a2lFLsYU

Render time: 1.22 seconds | 228,135,382 unique visits