Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Anthomyia, pluvalis <?> imbrida
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 01-05-2013 19:28
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 Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2402 Joined: 02.09.09 |
Photograph taken on May 01, 2013, in Mountain area about 15 kilometers from the Mediterranean coast. Coastal area in southern Spain Apparent size with wings, about 8-9 mm Thanks in advance for any help! Maherjos attached the following image:  [133.11Kb] Edited by Maherjos on 02-05-2013 17:02 |
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 01-05-2013 19:28
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 01-05-2013 19:29
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| John Carr |
Posted on 01-05-2013 20:11
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Probably Anthomyia near pluvalis, with several similar species in Europe. |
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 01-05-2013 21:39
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Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2402 Joined: 02.09.09 |
John Carr wrote: Probably Anthomyia near pluvalis, with several similar species in Europe. Very grateful for their identification. With your guidance I edit the title, hoping that some other specialist also wants to give us their opinion. Kind regards José Marín. |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 02-05-2013 09:50
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I agree with John....A. pluvialis. Johanna |
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 02-05-2013 10:59
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javanerkelens wrote: I agree with John....A. pluvialis. Johanna Many thanks for your information.  I express my appreciation for your cooperation and help Best regards from the south of Spain. |
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 02-05-2013 12:50
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
I think it is more likely to be Anthomyia imbrida female. One can't be certain with female Anthomyia as the shape of the black scutal spots can vary from place to place, but the postsutural lateral black spot in the photo is not really like pluvialis. The best way to be sure about the females is to catch some males in the vicinity and examine the genitalia, as sternite V in profile is very characteristic for all the species |
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 02-05-2013 17:01
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Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2402 Joined: 02.09.09 |
Michael Ackland wrote: I think it is more likely to be Anthomyia imbrida female. One can't be certain with female Anthomyia as the shape of the black scutal spots can vary from place to place, but the postsutural lateral black spot in the photo is not really like pluvialis. The best way to be sure about the females is to catch some males in the vicinity and examine the genitalia, as sternite V in profile is very characteristic for all the species Thank you very much, the interesting information you provide. I should clarify, that I'm just a fan of diptera. I manage to be able to take pictures. But though I have a microscope, I have no capacity to do studies genitalia of specimens that can be photographed. It is also true, that the fly photographed, was the only one I could find in the area. Neither other male specimens, nor other female specimens. So, if the pictures can not come to fruition the species, we must remain in doubt of his complete identification. Another question is, which can be deduced, taking into account the species of Anthomyia that may be present in Spain, or Europe. I know that Anthomyia pluvalis, if present in Spain. But, I do not know if Anthomyia imbrida is or not referenced in Spain. Perhaps you, the experts, if you may know. Best Regards from southern Spain. |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 02-05-2013 18:32
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 Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Yes, it can be found in Spain  But I always thought that female Anthomyia were impossible to ID from pictures. Great to know they are not so impossible  A new challange in front of me 
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 02-05-2013 18:35 |
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 02-05-2013 19:46
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Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2402 Joined: 02.09.09 |
Piluca_Alvarez wrote: Yes, it can be found in Spain But I always thought that female Anthomyia were impossible to ID from pictures. Great to know they are not so impossible A new challange in front of me Courage Piluca,! . Hopefully one day they can identify ... While we can only wait ...  Big greetings |
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