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Physocephala chrysorrhoea?
piros
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Posted on 12-12-2012 16:57
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Found near Bácsborista, about 35 km. W of Szeged, S. Hungary, on 05. 08. 2011. I think it is a female of Physocephala chrysorrhoea. Can someone confirm or correct this ID?

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Henrik
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Is this an impossible case?
 
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I've checked everything I could, and now I am quite confident that this fly is indeed P. chrysorrhoea, so I will file it under that name, unless someone disagree...
 
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I agree with you.
 
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Grin Many thanks, Mark!

(I have already given up on this...)
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Dear Members,
I have also a Physocephala from Turkey near to chryorrhoea, but different species. What is your opinion on this subject?
 
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Dear Members,
I have also a Physocephala from Turkey near to chryorrhoea, but different species. What is your opinion on this subject?
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Posted on 19-02-2013 19:19
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As you know, I am no expert of anything, but this fly looks closer to P. lacera (male) to me, especially if it were fairly small. In any case, this one doesn't seem to have a silverish stripe on the pleura between wing base and midle leg, unlike P. chrysorrhoea, which does.

Best wishes,

Henrik
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I support your approach, OK not 100% but a very small conopid, resembling other identified P. lacera in various diptera sites, incl. Diptera.info. Thanks Henrik!
 
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Cesa, yours should be a male Physocephala vittata...
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The specimen from Turkey is surly vitiate, the specimen from Hungary is very strange. It is far from typical chrysorrhoe that should occur in Hungary but I have no idea what else it could be. Has the specimen been collected?
 
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Posted on 30-11-2016 18:31
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No, unfortunately, it has not been collected Sad However, I've seen a number of very similar flies at the same place, so I might be able to collect the sp. in the future, if it is interesting in any way...
Greetings,
Henrik
 
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Posted on 30-11-2016 18:37
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BTW, would you please explain to me what is unusual about it? (So that I would be able to recognize it, if see one again)
 
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