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 Clytiomya sola? -Hungary >Eliozeta helluo
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| piros |
Posted on 30-10-2012 10:55
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1763 Joined: 04.01.12 |
Hi Forum! I found this fly in Szeged, S. Hungary. Date: 11.08.2012. The site is covered by ruderal vegetation, but is home of many southern/submediterranean sp. My best guess is Clytiomya sola male. Thanks for any help! Henrik piros attached the following image:  [194.44Kb] Edited by piros on 03-11-2012 23:54 |
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| piros |
Posted on 30-10-2012 11:01
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1763 Joined: 04.01.12 |
2nd pic. |
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| piros |
Posted on 30-10-2012 11:06
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1763 Joined: 04.01.12 |
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Posted on 30-10-2012 11:08
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1763 Joined: 04.01.12 |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 30-10-2012 12:11
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Did you rule out the genus Eliozeta?
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| piros |
Posted on 30-10-2012 16:14
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1763 Joined: 04.01.12 |
ChrisR wrote: Did you rule out the genus Eliozeta? No, not really, my "second best" guess was Eliozeta helluo... However, it seems to me that E. helluo males have relatively large chaetae at the posterior edge of each tergum, which this fly does not seem to have. Also, vertex seems to be broader in E. helluo males. But these differences may be irrelevant for distinguishing between the two sp.... |
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| piros |
Posted on 02-11-2012 13:15
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1763 Joined: 04.01.12 |
In all of my pictures, including those above, I can discern only one ad bristle on the midle tibia. Isn't it good enough to exlude Eliozeta? (Eliozeta seems to have two.)
Edited by piros on 02-11-2012 21:56 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 03-11-2012 18:29
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18532 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Very interesting. First of all, it is Eliozeta. The hairs on tergites are all adpressed. It looks different from E.helluond that is because E. helluo from southern countries are much more orange on tergites (and some other differences). Clearly, Szeged in the southern form area ! If you see those again, please collect !! Theo |
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| piros |
Posted on 03-11-2012 23:51
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1763 Joined: 04.01.12 |
Thank you very much, Theo! So it is Eliozeta helluo after all  I certainly will collect them (if I see them again, that is...)!Kind regards, Henrik |
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but don't see the image in the post.