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Copula, Musca domestica. Confirmation please.!
Maherjos
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Posted on 27-10-2012 09:10
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Photograph taken on October, 21 2012, in the wetlands of the Suárez Pond, Motril, Granada, Spain.
Immediate area of the Mediterranean coast.

Appreciate your cooperation for identification.-

I would appreciate your help identifying this dipterous -
Thank you.
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andrzej grzywacz
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Musca autumnalis
 
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andrzej grzywacz wrote:
Musca autumnalis


Very grateful for their identification. Smile

Best regards.
 
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I thought the gap between the eyes was narrower in male autumnalis, for example compare these:
http://www.dipter...oto_id=525
http://www.dipter...to_id=2612
(But I am no expert)
 
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I am not an expert either, but my thought was domestica too. Not only the gap on the frons of the male looks a bit too wide to me, also the dark area on the frons of the female looks too wide for autumnalis. But again, my experience on Musca is nearly nill. I only talk through theory Wink However, I would love to see the light finally with these Smile
 
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tristram wrote:
I thought the gap between the eyes was narrower in male autumnalis, for example compare these:
http://www.dipter...oto_id=525
http://www.dipter...to_id=2612
(But I am no expert)


In fact, overall, I'm very ignorant to know how to identify. And so I can only .... ask the experts.
Really do not know the exact difference between Musca domestica and Musca autumnalis. From the examples you cite, in the second of them, it seems to me very similar to the male that appears in my picture, so I can not find any difference.
Maybe someone else wants to give us his expert opinion and we clarify possible doubts.

Thank you for your feedback.
 
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Piluca_Alvarez wrote:
I am not an expert either, but my thought was domestica too. Not only the gap on the frons of the male looks a bit too wide to me, also the dark area on the frons of the female looks too wide for autumnalis. But again, my experience on Musca is nearly nill. I only talk through theory Wink However, I would love to see the light finally with these Smile


Piluca Thanks for contributing your knowledge.
Although you say you have no experience in Musca, I trust quite of your opinion, so I'll change the title to that effect.
It would be great if another expert, also we would like to give your opinion. Maybe then I come to find out what the real difference between the two species.

Kind regards.
 
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