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Tabanid from N Spain to ID, please -> Tabanus eggeri
Marian
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Posted on 16-08-2012 11:04
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Hi, everyone!!!

Now I bring here a beauty I found on a balcony in Potes, a village in Picos de Europa National Park, in the mountains of N Spain, on August the 4th.

Any ideas? Hope this is not difficult, looks quite striking to my inexperienced eyes...

Thanks in advance, as usual Smile

Cheers
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A (more or less) frontal view: Smile
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And another view, just in case it adds further information:
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Marian this is a Philipomyia aprica. A rather common tabanid in mountains. Grin
 
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Superb!!! TumbsUpTumbsUpTumbsUp

Thanks a pile, Jorge, mega-happy about this, hope I'll be able to name it next time I find it. Wink

Regards
 
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No superb :-( Jorge is not right. Philipomyia has bright green eyes and orange to brownish antennae. This animal has antennae black. It is any member of Tabanus bovinus group. I try to get more precise ID at evening.
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Marian
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Oops! awkward

Sounds as if these creatures are more tricky than expected!

I'll wait for your conclusion, Libor, thank you very much for your interest.

And for you, Jorge, I appreciate the same your effort, no worries. Wink

Best wishes to you both
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Frown opsss. sorry MARIAN. Sad I'll keep my mouth shut up for months as penalty. Sad
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Jorge, catch some Iberian Tabanids and Rhagionids for me Grin And kepp yourmouth open TumbsUp
 
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I am not absolutely sure, but I think it is Tabanus bovinus. But I hope Theo will confirm my ID.
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Libor is getting closer.

It is Tabanus eggeri.
Its colouration is rather typical (though variable)

Theo
 
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Oh, eggeri was my second favorite. I did not know that eggeri should have completely black antennae ...
 
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Yes it does,

to distinguish it from tinctus.


Theo
 
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WOW!!! TumbsUp I've just checked and there are plenty of replies in this thread, I didn't receive the notification in my e-mail, I don't know why! :-(

Mega-happy to know finally what this beauty is, and very happy too with the comments with hints for identification, that's the way to learn something.

So, I'm very grateful to all of you for your contributions, best wishes to you all!!! Smile

Marian
 
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Horseflies, any time, Marian


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Thank you, Theo! Smile I have a couple of specimens in my photo-archives with no name, I'll post them here soon.

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18.08.14 15:25
Thanks Stephane

15.08.14 21:29
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15.08.14 15:44
so looking at another eg Wangen (Parafacialia) 1.5 – bis 1.75 mals so breit wie das 3. Fühlerglied = Parafacialia 1.5 to 1.75 times as broad as the 3rd antennal segment (postpedicel)

14.08.14 15:26
You read my mind - I was wondering about that too

11.08.14 19:03
And nouns in German always begin with a Capital letter, whatever their place ! That was further misleading ! Shock

11.08.14 15:26
Thank you Stephane - I thought that was a full stop! I wondered why there was a single word!

10.08.14 10:14
e.g : "Der Abstand der inneren Augenrander entspricht etwa der 4fachen Breite des 3. FĂĽhlerglied." (Distance between inner eyes margin about 4 times as broad as 3rd antennal segment)

10.08.14 09:53
Must be "...des 3. + [Name]." which means "of the 3rd [name]" ; the point after a number is the mark of ordinal numbers in German !

07.08.14 15:59
Der abstand der inneren Augenrander entspricht etwa der 4fachen Breite des 3!

07.08.14 15:56
Thanks for you help, its the last line for the moment. I will add it completely

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