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Roger Thomason	#1 Posted on 22-07-2012 02:14
Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 3994 Joined: 17.07.08	Found at Little Ayre...Muckle Roe...in a...marsh. Only these 2 pics. Roger Thomason attached the following image: [157.12Kb]


Igor Grichanov	#2 Posted on 23-07-2012 09:34
Member Location: St.Petersburg, Russia Posts: 956 Joined: 17.08.06	It is Campsicnemus, female. Igor Grichanov


John Carr	#3 Posted on 24-07-2012 02:29
Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 1451 Joined: 22.10.10	The visible characters are much like Gymnopternus: preapical setae on femora, strong setae on all tibiae (in a row of three on the hind tibia), R5 and M parallel, form of antennae similar (with presence or absence of setae on scape not visible at this magnification). Is there a simple way to distinguish the genera from a distance? This fly lacks a comb on the fore tibiae and has long, pale postocular setae but I don't think that's conclusive.


Roger Thomason	#4 Posted on 24-07-2012 06:26
Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 3994 Joined: 17.07.08	Thanks Igor...one for the recycle bin then The most conclusive bit of evidence for me John, is the name Igor Grichanov attached to the reply Regards Roger [Was that OK Igor? The cheque IS in the post I hope!!!] Edited by Roger Thomason on 24-07-2012 06:27


Igor Grichanov	#5 Posted on 24-07-2012 09:30
Member Location: St.Petersburg, Russia Posts: 956 Joined: 17.08.06	From this angle of view, the following combination is conclusive: femora rather slender, knees blackened, abdomen shorter than thorax, wing much longer than abdomen, with strong veins, with vein M ending behind wing apex. It is characteristic for Campsicnemus, being unusual for Gymnopternus. Igor Grichanov


Stefan Naglis	#6 Posted on 25-07-2012 22:34
Member Location: Switzerland Posts: 424 Joined: 27.12.08	I agree with Igor: Campsicnemus sp. female