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 Pegomya holmgreni, Anthomyiidae
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| JariF |
Posted on 07-07-2012 15:52
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1790 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Hi, yes, I know I should know this fly but but .... July 3. 2012 Loviisa, Finland and from my malaise trap Jari JariF attached the following image:  [110.76Kb] Edited by JariF on 06-08-2012 15:46 |
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| JariF |
Posted on 08-07-2012 17:26
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1790 Joined: 20.01.06 |
No help from the galleries  |
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| JariF |
Posted on 08-07-2012 19:53
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1790 Joined: 20.01.06 |
In fact the family would be enough ... |
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| neprisikiski |
Posted on 08-07-2012 20:29
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Member Location: Lithuania Posts: 811 Joined: 23.02.09 |
Anthomyiidae
Erikas |
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| JariF |
Posted on 08-07-2012 20:34
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1790 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Thank's Erikas, I was affraid to hear that family name  |
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 08-07-2012 21:13
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 Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2374 Joined: 12.06.09 |
What does the female of Phaonia kowarzii look like? |
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 08-07-2012 21:57
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Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2374 Joined: 12.06.09 |
Oh, now I see a proclinate orbital. But no interfrontals? The anal vein does seem to get to the margin. so Anthomyiidae must be right. Edited by Stephen R on 08-07-2012 22:18 |
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| JariF |
Posted on 08-07-2012 22:05
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1790 Joined: 20.01.06 |
The anal vein is long, small hairs under the scutellum but indeed .. no interfrontals .. |
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 08-07-2012 22:19
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Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2374 Joined: 12.06.09 |
See my edit above! |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 08-07-2012 23:21
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2126 Joined: 18.10.07 |
The notopleuron seems haired and the only species of Anthomyiidae with the notopleuron haired, I know, is Pegomya argyrocephala, but the description does not fit to this species, all legs should be dark and not have black shining part on thorax or abdomen...... |
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 09-07-2012 00:25
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Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2374 Joined: 12.06.09 |
Pegomya was my thought too, but there's nothing that looks close to this in the British key. Maybe some Eurasian cousin? |
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| JariF |
Posted on 09-07-2012 07:34
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1790 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Thank' Joke and Stephen ! This seems to be an interesting fly  I must show the specimen to Kahis or someone |
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 09-07-2012 18:19
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 570 Joined: 23.02.08 |
I think it is a female Pegomya, perhaps related to holmgreni. There are a few rarey caught Pegomya species in the far north. I caught 2 female Pegomya holmgreni in Abisko some years ago. My specimens have all black shiny abdomens. But Griffiths (in Nearctic flies) mentions for holmgreni yellow basal segments with black posterior tergites. |
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| JariF |
Posted on 09-07-2012 18:57
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1790 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Thank You so much Michael ! Is this something You would like to see ? We don't have Pegomya holmgreni in our list (so far) .. |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 09-07-2012 19:23
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1989 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Hi everyone, and thanks for summoning me, Jari Hmm. Sorry to say, I dont know what the heck this is. Anthomyiidae, sure, but thats it. I can, however, say that I have seen a female like this in my net ... but only once I can remember. I think I have the specimen pinned somewhere. So whatever it is, it is not a very common species here. Such a characteristic look, it would be the nice to get a name for it! If nothing else helps, and I can find my specimen, I will send a leg to the BOL project to be DNA sequenced. That is, IF I can find it. Unfortunately my collection is a bit of a mess after my prolonged illness. Kahis |
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| JariF |
Posted on 06-08-2012 15:49
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1790 Joined: 20.01.06 |
I got a mail from Verner Michelsen today with a confirmation to Michaels id A Pegomya holmgreni female. A rare species and new to our list. Jari |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 06-08-2012 19:41
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2126 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Very nice!! |
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...what you prefer, we can discus this, during some good wine, cheese and many new pinned flies!