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 Beautiful Bombylius for ID, SE Spain --> Triplasius polius
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 21-05-2012 19:25
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 1391 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Picture taken by my friend Francisco Rodriguez in the mountains of Almeria, 20 May 2012. Any help with the ID will be most appreciated 
Piluca_Alvarez attached the following image:  [175.82Kb] Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 12-06-2012 06:35 |
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 21-05-2012 20:03
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 Member Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 831 Joined: 17.06.06 |
certainly an astonishing beast. a quick attempt to key through Engel drew a blank, no Spanish sp in that key fits description. will try Paramonov when find time but as always with unfamiliar species really need specimens of both sexes. Many details obscured even in this excellent shot. |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 21-05-2012 20:57
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 1391 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Thanks so much, David! I really appreciate the effort  Looking forward to hearing from you again. Even if it isn't a definite ID, it will be interesting to know some possibilities. |
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 24-05-2012 21:27
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Member Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 831 Joined: 17.06.06 |
Triplasius pictus det Neal Evenhuis |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 24-05-2012 21:33
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 11809 Joined: 11.05.04 |
If THIS is Triplasius pictus, I guess the one above is not, or vice versa...
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on www.diptera.info |
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 24-05-2012 22:22
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Member Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 831 Joined: 17.06.06 |
well i have not found it myself nor do i have specimens so i am reliant on Neal for this one. this one is female, the one you cite is male which i presume accounts for the striking difference. |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 24-05-2012 22:29
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 1391 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Paul, and we must bear in mind the one photographed by my friend is in pristine conditions. I have checked and it fits pretty well. And it is the only species of Triplasius that can be found in Spain. But thanks for the alert I have learnt something else out of all this David, I cannot thank you enough for the effort and the interest
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 24-05-2012 22:29 |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 24-05-2012 22:52
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 11809 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Please, compare the wing pattern and colour of the legs (which should not be influenced by the specimen being in pristine consition or not) and you will note the differences. I found there is another Triplasius decribed from Spain (T. polius) but I have no access to the publication (www.maik.ru/abstr...stract.pdf). Edited by Paul Beuk on 24-05-2012 23:45 Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on www.diptera.info |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 24-05-2012 23:01
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 1391 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Paul, I see your point  Didn't realize of those differences  I only saw the markings on the scutellum and lowe part of the thorax. Very interesting article. If somebody has it or has a link to the whole thing, please, post it here. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 24-05-2012 23:46
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 11809 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Jorge just confirmed polius and sent me a pdf of the paper that also confirms an ID by Neal Evenhuis. A definite 'must' for the Gallery! Edited by Paul Beuk on 24-05-2012 23:47 Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on www.diptera.info |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 26-05-2012 22:41
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 1391 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Paul, already on the way to the gallery Thanks again to all of you that contributed to its identification |
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...what you prefer, we can discus this, during some good wine, cheese and many new pinned flies!