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Eristalis intricaria
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Posted on 10-12-2006 10:12
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From midwest Sweden 2001-JUL-19. At first glimpse I thought these were the same fly, but it wasn't. Perhaps it is female and male of the same species ... like Eristalis intricaria?
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The other photo taken at the same occasion.
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It is Eristalis intricaria. Similar species is the Eristalis oestracea but he have white scutelum and diferent tars 3 (are red) .
 
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Correct. Female above male below. Eristalis intricarius (note genus name is male gender)
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Actually Eristalis intricaria.Wink
http://www.syrphidae.com/checklist.php?country=GB
 
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Posted on 10-12-2006 11:57
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Tony Irwin wrote:
Correct. Female above male below. Eristalis intricarius (note genus name is male gender)


Thank you Tony and Mielczarek. The choice of names seems to be very personal. I wish there where a standard all could agree on. In Fauna Europaea it says Eristalis intricaria. Until the diptera is added to the Swedish Report System for Invertebrates I can't say what it will be named here in the cold dark north ...
 
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Mmmm... I have to say that I tend to follow the British Check List as on the Diptera Forum website. http://www.dipter..._intro.php
As a rule, Peter Chandler is very fussy about getting things right. It isn't a matter of personal taste. There are rules which should be followed so that we can all use the same names, and end up with a stable, agreed list.
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Tony Irwin wrote:
Mmmm... I have to say that I tend to follow the British Check List as on the Diptera Forum website. http://www.dipter..._intro.php
As a rule, Peter Chandler is very fussy about getting things right. It isn't a matter of personal taste. There are rules which should be followed so that we can all use the same names, and end up with a stable, agreed list.


I didn't mean that everyone could make their own names up, and certainly not that you made a mistake, but it's a fact that not all follow the same standard. I'm not getting into a debate about this. I think often there are a choice of preserving an old faulty name or choosing a new proper one that might add to the confusion, because when you change a name there are going to be two names for the same species in literature etc ... When I report my findings I have to use the name that is used in Sweden to be able to report it at all.
 
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