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Chrysotoxum sp. for ID, central Spain
Piluca_Alvarez
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Found this guy yesterday by a path near a lagoon. Taken in the outskirts of Madrid. Would love to know the species. Thanks in advance for any help.
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A lateral view, just in case it helps.
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Dasysyrphus albostriatus?
 
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Dasysyrphus albostriatus?


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Hope you weren't agreeing with that Paul...Chrysotoxum of some description yes.
 
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On the thorax you can see the 'white stripes' of the specific name - my only doubt was that I wouldn't know about any very similar continental species.
 
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I tend to disagree. The long antenna make it a Chrysotoxum sp. for me.

I think this is Chrysotoxum vernale.
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Thanks to you all for your input!

I am sure it is a Chrysotoxum. As Lakeside said, the antenna make it Chrysotoxum.

I have been doing some searching and I agree with Lakeside that might be C. vernale. But I think it can be C. intermedium too. What are the features that separate C. vernale from C. intermedium?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Could be both species in my opinion. I don;t think the difference can be made from these shots...at least not by me Smile
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Who said Chrysotoxum intermedium ? This is C. intermedium. C. vernale has a shorter 3d antennal article.
Stephane.
 
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Thank you so much, Stephane!

I am a happy girl now GrinGrinGrin
 
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