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 Heleomyzidae - Suillia bistrigata
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-04-2010 22:29
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Hi This seemed to be a phaeomyiid... but then all costa is very spiny... and it has vibrissae... heleomyzoid fly... jorgemotalmeida attached the following image:  [194.42Kb] Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 05-04-2010 23:00 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-04-2010 22:32
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
another... look at the katepisternum, full of very tiny and long microtrichia.
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-04-2010 22:34
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-04-2010 22:37
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-04-2010 22:41
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-04-2010 22:44
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-04-2010 22:49
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 05-04-2010 22:52
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2404 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Why did you say Phaeomyiid fly ! It is Suillia !!! A male !!! I see a dot before anterior crossvein ? Isn't it ? If yes, so Suillia bistrigata (Lw) 
Edited by Andrzej on 05-04-2010 22:54 dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-04-2010 22:57
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
I told it looks like a phaeomyiid... and it really looks. But when we see the fly carefully it turns out to be a Heleomyzid.  Phaeomyiid has no vibrissae neither spiny costa neither strong bristles on scutum. But in the field I thought it because I used to find Phaeomyiid these days at final afternoon. A pity... I would like to see again the Pelidnoptera! And you are right. it is a dot Is this Suillia rare?
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 05-04-2010 23:00
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2404 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Very nice and typical Mediterranean species :-) but not more than a hundred and one specimens ... were collected Andrzej dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-04-2010 23:02
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Nice! If I find more specimens... I can send you if you wish.
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 05-04-2010 23:02 |
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| Mark-uk |
Posted on 05-04-2010 23:04
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 Member Location: UK - Hampshire Posts: 792 Joined: 01.02.10 |
yet another Heleomyzidae. they seem to be on this site a lot, surely that is a queue for someone to write a new key? or to publicise an existing one? I have lot of Heleomyzids I would like to put a name too. What keys should I be using? |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 05-04-2010 23:16
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2404 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Ok Jorge, collect plz more, maybe more unrecorded species will be found ??? - maybe a new one: S. prope lusitanica or S. jorgi will be found Concerning the Suillia key, I use my private: Cogan + Czerny + Gorodkov + Whiters, including my experiences. Concerning the Great Britain Collin, 1943 + Withers, P., 1987, and Gorodkov translations (http://books.google.com/books?id=dsoUAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA510&lpg=PA510&dq=Gorodkov+helomyzidae&source=bl&ots=FjuaVFk8a0&sig=axYavUgmvZW0yks79H2U8o5-l60&hl=pl&ei=TWC6S5KxIuSHOOuBkaEL&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Gorodkov%20helomyzidae&f=false) could be use I have to write a new one to the Europaean species ... with Phil
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 05-04-2010 23:17
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2404 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Sorry for the long web address but my tinyurl doesn't work well tonigth ! Andrzej dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-04-2010 23:19
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Who knows? ps Select all the link and then use the symbol after the underline symbol (U). Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 05-04-2010 23:20 |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 05-04-2010 23:20
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 Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5268 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Mark-uk wrote: yet another Heleomyzidae. they seem to be on this site a lot, I have lot of Heleomyzids I would like to put a name too. Hi Mark, Post them on here, Andrzej will stick a name to them faster than you can say his name. P Might need pics of dorsal and lateral views.Roger |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 05-04-2010 23:27
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2404 Joined: 05.01.06 |
hehehe ! not always ! Now, my black cat is sleeping, and I have to drink black coffee (Dallmayr freshly freshly ground coffee) ! dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-04-2010 23:28
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
if the hot black coffee falls on the black cat...  |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 05-04-2010 23:30
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2404 Joined: 05.01.06 |
hehehe without milk and sugar ! really tasty 
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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