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| christoophe |
Posted on 15-03-2010 13:03
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Hello Collected 14 03 10, they were many, collected three, size 14 to 17 mm. In the group prompta/rubenscens, I think the palps are short compared to jorge's thread http://www.dipter...d_id=24583 . Thus prompta? pic1 christoophe attached the following image:  [73.93Kb] Edited by christoophe on 15-03-2010 13:04 |
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| christoophe |
Posted on 15-03-2010 13:04
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| christoophe |
Posted on 15-03-2010 13:04
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| christoophe |
Posted on 15-03-2010 13:05
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 15-03-2010 14:26
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 Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7701 Joined: 12.07.04 |
In Tschorsnig & Herting it uses the presence/absence of a dark longitudinal stripe along the sternites ... but I must admit to being very confused about Peleteria in southern Europe as a whole ... I haven't found a copy of the Peleteria section in Mesnil in Lindner  So I will be watching this thread with interest 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| christoophe |
Posted on 15-03-2010 17:35
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sternites ChrisR wrote: So I will be watching this thread with interest Me too |
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| christoophe |
Posted on 15-03-2010 17:35
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Member Location: France Provence Posts: 1993 Joined: 06.02.08 |
sternites ChrisR wrote: So I will be watching this thread with interest Me too
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 15-03-2010 20:11
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Well, according to T&H that should be P.prompta but let's wait for Theo 
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 16-03-2010 21:15
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18909 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Christoophe has the right features, but upside down: short palpus implies NOT prompta / rubescens. I agree the palpus looks short, morover, the second antennal segment is black in prompta / rubescens and here it is clearly reddish. So we move on to the ruficornis group. DC 3 + 4, parafacialia at least as broad as in rubescens, claws somewhat elongated, and other features like shape of third antennal segment clearly points to... male P. meridionalis. Not in my collection. Congratulations. Theo |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 16-03-2010 21:16
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Collect more! |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 17-03-2010 00:13
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7701 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Wow Theo: can we find that Peleteria key anywhere or is it just in your head? My scan of Die Fliegen doesn't seem to have Peleteria
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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