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Dolichopus? OHIO, U.S.A.
Steve Pelikan
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A fly from southern OHIO, U.S.A. flying in June.

This keys as Dolichopus ovatus Loew based on all dark legs and lower orbital setae pale, primarily.
But in our area only D. setifer Loew has males with dark wing spots it seems?
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And D. setifer whould have light pro and meso tibiae?
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Igor Grichanov
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It is not ovatus. I never seen setifer, but my experience says that colouration of tibiae is sometimes very variable in Dolichopus. Check other characters.
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Thanks! Knowing it isn't ovatus helps a lot.

It turns out that it isn't setifer either (face too wide, legs wrong color, wing marks in the wrong location etc. etc.) Plus it doesn't look anything like the type at MCZ: http://insects.oe...d.edu/MCZ/

Now there are no other in the genus in our area with marked wings that I can find.

What's the chance that the wing markings are just an individual variation?

Or this fly isn't Dolichopus?
Edited by Steve Pelikan on 11-03-2010 02:35
 
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I think it is Dolichopus, but certainly not setifer. So, you must check all species described during the last decades.
BTW, it is great MCZ Type Database that includes 3192 illustrated type specimens of Diptera species.
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Steve Pelikan
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Thanks (belatedly)! I'm now pretty sure there haven't been any other Dolichopus with marked wings described for America north of Mexico (at least). I've not had any luck obtaining other specimens even at the original location.
 
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There are a few other species with spotted wings from North America. (No need to specify "north of Mexico" in this case; the few Dolichopus south of the border are also found in the United States.)

Could this be a Tachytrechus? A few species have a brown spot at the wingtip.

Edit: I just saw the bristles on the left hind basitarsus -- I had been looking at the right and seeing only short hairs -- so it must be Dolichopus
Edited by John Carr on 28-05-2012 21:06
 
Stefan Naglis
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It is a Dolichopus sp.

Use the key to North American Dolichopus (Van Duzee & Curran 1934).
 
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Yes, thank you for advice and sympathy. Not everything can be keyed even in a well known genus. I'll try again in a year or two when (I hope) I'm a little smarter!
 
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14.05.13 09:30
A partial catalogue of types @ MZH (Zool. Mus. Helsinki) by yours truly Smile http://www.luomus.
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OK, Paul! Smile

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@milos: I need to check. Perhaps I have.

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Thank you for your quick reply Smile

02.05.13 08:59
does anyone have Agromyzidae from Afrotropical region please

30.04.13 16:38
schulterbeulen = humeri kreutzborsten = crossed bristles

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can anyone translate the german words schulterbeulen and kreutzborsten please? Wink

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Smile ok, Johanna!

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Grin...what you prefer, we can discus this, during some good wine, cheese and many new pinned flies!

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