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 Tachinidae - Ethilla aemula
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-08-2009 23:49
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
This fly was spot in 18th August 2009 in Póvoa Dão. 7 mm size.
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-08-2009 23:51
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-08-2009 23:53
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-08-2009 23:56
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-08-2009 23:58
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 21-08-2009 00:03
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 21-08-2009 09:38
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18532 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Very distinctive, yet currently no idea. Need to work on this one. Theo |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 21-08-2009 09:41
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
It's a very interesting fly!  But it doesn't ring any bells with me 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 21-08-2009 10:55
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 Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
Hi, Running through the key: Ethilla aemula? Jaakko |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 21-08-2009 10:57
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
hm..... probably. It is cited for Spain. I hope Theo agrees with this ID.  |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 24-08-2009 03:29
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
which are the relatives with Ethilla? |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 24-08-2009 07:01
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Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
Hi, They belong to Ethillini. Paratryphera is the only familiar genus to me in this tribe, they are very similar in habitus! Jaakko |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 13-01-2010 14:29
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Forgot this thread. I would like to know if there is a consensus for Ethilla. Thanks in advance. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 15-01-2010 09:43
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18532 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Jaakko is 1000 % correct (typo at first, but given the quality of ID, I leave it): Ethilla. And there is only one: aemula. I had only a female in my collection. The colouration of the male is very distinctive ! Theo |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 15-01-2010 10:17
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Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
Oh, cool! I need to start playing lottery... The calypters pointed to right direction and not so many options afterwards. However, I never know how many species exist in Portugal that are not included in the Central European key. |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 15-01-2010 10:23
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Very nice fly!  But I never understood that couplet in the key: "#145 - Area of the calyptrae near the outside edge balloon-like convex" ... Can someone illustrate or describe the 2 alternatives because to me the outside edge of the calyptrae are always convex?? 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 15-01-2010 10:59
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 Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2396 Joined: 12.06.09 |
Sounds like it's not the outline but the surface of the calypter that balloons out instead of being flat. |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 15-01-2010 11:17
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
That would be more logical ... but calypters are usually not dead flat at the best of times ... probably needs a better choice of words perhaps
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 15-01-2010 11:32
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Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2396 Joined: 12.06.09 |
I suppose 'balloon-like' means that these ones are inflated more than usual. 'Area' in it's correct sense does refer to a surface, but because it is sometimes used loosely to mean just 'part', it might have been clearer to write 'surface' instead. |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 15-01-2010 12:33
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Hmm, maybe Jorge could take more close-ups of one calypter from various angles so that we can see it properly
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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