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 Mesembrina meridiana
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| picotverd |
Posted on 23-01-2009 14:26
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Hi before the server failed this fly was id as possible Mesembrina cf intermedia, wich is not listed in Spain. I have search for more photos and finded them. What is your opinion? 10 augoust 08 at catalonian pyrenees about 2.000 mts aprox. picotverd attached the following image:  [135.2Kb] Edited by picotverd on 28-03-2017 15:56 |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 23-01-2009 21:30
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Pleas try to re-attach the image.
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| picotverd |
Posted on 24-01-2009 08:41
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Another photo
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| picotverd |
Posted on 24-01-2009 08:43
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| picotverd |
Posted on 24-01-2009 08:46
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I took this photo a couple of minutes before and so you can see the habitat, wich i think is interesting to place the habitat also, it is a herbaceos with few threes and cows...
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| picotverd |
Posted on 24-01-2009 08:47
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And finally the map from fauna europeaea, wich i imagine it is orientative. I marked where i find this fly.
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-01-2009 11:28
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Visible characters are for Mesembrina cf intermedia. But I have never work specially with Mesembrina and I don't know if there are some undercurrents in this genus. |
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| andrzej grzywacz |
Posted on 26-01-2009 11:26
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 Member Location: Poland Posts: 103 Joined: 09.02.08 |
Do you have specimen in your collection? Mesembrina intermedia have 1+1 katepisternal setae, M. meridiana only 0+1 katepisternal, but I have read that sometimes also M. meridiana hve 1+1 setae. Look also on 5th tarsomere of fore leg (yellow-> M. meridiana; brown-> M. intermedia). I have in my collection specimen looking like M. meridiana but in my opinion also has characters of M. intermedia. Maybe specialist should see this photo. |
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| picotverd |
Posted on 26-01-2009 13:37
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No, but the place is not very far from where i spend my vacances on holydays, so it will be easy to reach the place and i image that won't be difficult to catch them. I will do it, so, in july or augoust, so if anybody is interested tell me in order to send them. Thank you |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 23-12-2009 14:22
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Having just sorted though the finnish Mesembrina material, it's my opinion that this one is not M. intermedia. I dont know all possible south european Mesembrina species, but among the central european ones, I'd call this M. meridiana.
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