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Australian Tachinidae?
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 18-05-2013 22:05
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
I think these are Tachinidae, but am not sure. Malaise trap. Townsville, Queensland. Graeme Cocks attached the following image: ![]() [34.48Kb] |
| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 18-05-2013 22:06
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
Different fly, but same species. Graeme Cocks attached the following image: ![]() [34.5Kb] |
| ChrisR |
Posted on 19-05-2013 00:10
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Definitely Tachinidae - probably Siphonini - but I can't say much more without seeing the specimens
Edited by ChrisR on 19-05-2013 00:11 Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 19-05-2013 00:15
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
Thanks Chris. I thought it would be Tachinidae. The two specimens had an unusual alignment on the Taxon ID Tree I get from BOLD. So just thought I would check. |
| Jaakko |
Posted on 19-05-2013 18:27
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Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
Hi Graeme, That must be a Siphona sp. Out of curiosity, what do you mean by unusual alignment? There is now quite many species of Siphona in BOLD. They show surprising sequence variety compared to many other geni. Would be fun to know which one of our species is close to yours. Cheers, Jaakko |
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 19-05-2013 19:16
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
Hi Jaakko, I have produced a pdf from BOLD of closest species. Where will I send it? |
| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 19-05-2013 19:24
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
This is a screen capture of the tree I was refering to. The two species are gvc9549 and gvc12379. They are located well away from the rest of the Tachinidae. I believe they will be the only Siphona species I have collected. The scale bar is 5%. Graeme Cocks attached the following image: ![]() [130.81Kb] |
| Jaakko |
Posted on 28-05-2013 11:20
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Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
I found this old thread, sorry for delay! I think that must be a contamination by another sample or some other error. It happens sometimes. Is qvc9549-1L identical to the one above? You can click open the sequence page of the sample, copy it and paste it in the identification engine of BOLD and compare the sequence to the all other sequences in the database. |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 28-05-2013 11:22
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Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
Here´s how it looks like, click the "Identification" tab to enter it. Cheers, Jaakko Jaakko attached the following image: ![]() [127.18Kb] Edited by Jaakko on 28-05-2013 11:24 |
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| Graeme Cocks |
Posted on 28-05-2013 20:09
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Member Location: Townsville, Australia Posts: 3083 Joined: 09.09.08 |
The flies pictured in this post are gvc12379 and gvc9549. With two specimens I find contamination less likely. Ideally I would send some more to BOLD, but that is closed now. You can achieve comparison withe the entire database also by using Record Search then clicking on the number in the Sequence Page column. Cheers, Graeme |
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