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 Empis gooti ♂ ♀ (OK)
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 27-04-2013 15:31
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Sorry, I am not able to make a nicer, clearer photo. My equipment (and skills) are not good enough.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 27-04-2013 15:34
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
again
rvanderweele attached the following image:  [134.06Kb] ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Marcello |
Posted on 27-04-2013 20:03
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Member Location: Padua - Northeast Italy Posts: 577 Joined: 01.07.12 |
Wow, that's great!!! Really fantastic photo  So can we confirm that it's E. gooti? BTW I see it's not very common in Europe, and never seen in Italy! I'm sending you an email... Thank you 
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 27-04-2013 20:28
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Not necesaary to be too enthusiastic, Marcello. I think with some effort you may find some more new species of Empididae from Italy. I don't know how common or uncommon it is. Very few people collect these small Empis specimens. They all look so much the same. And no, buddy, the photo is not fantastic! The photo is rather.....s..t! But today I order and adapter for between my microscope and the Iphone, so hopefully the quantily will be better in a few weeks. ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Marcello |
Posted on 27-04-2013 21:12
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Member Location: Padua - Northeast Italy Posts: 577 Joined: 01.07.12 |
Yes, I know ... Some time ago I found other 2 species of Empididae unknown, but I didn't collect them. And yes again, here we don't have too much people interested in Diptera, just someone in Sirphydae. Don't matter about the photo, I wish I could obtain such magnification
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 27-04-2013 22:49
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
It certainly belongs in the group with E. gooti. Just like Ruud I first started comparing with E. bicuspidata but the genitalia were too far off. Indeed, from the species I have seen, E. gooti seems closest, but I have, for example, not yet found the time to see if the female is also a good fit. U nfortun ately, I will not be able to do that in the next 10-14 day (all material an equipment are in the office and I am not).
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| Marcello |
Posted on 27-04-2013 23:18
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Member Location: Padua - Northeast Italy Posts: 577 Joined: 01.07.12 |
Hi Paul. I have done some research, just for to look at some pictures of the E. gooti, but I can't find any picture around the web. Now I'm searching it on some books. Paul, thank you for your help and the time you spent for it, I'll wait for your response. Ruud have done a great work too I hope one day to get closer to your skill/competence If you need another couple of this Empis sp. just ask and I'll send it. Have a nice weekend, Marcello http://www.flickr...loconsolo/ |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 29-04-2013 19:49
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Another male to further prepare genitalia would be welcome.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Marcello |
Posted on 29-04-2013 19:59
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Member Location: Padua - Northeast Italy Posts: 577 Joined: 01.07.12 |
Hi Paul. sure, I'll send it tomorrow or Thursday! Thanks Ciao, Marcello http://www.flickr...loconsolo/ |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 29-04-2013 20:07
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
I looked first at the female and compared it with bicuspidata. But there was certainly no fit. After looking at the males and coming to the conclusion that it looked quite okay, I looked at the females. I am quite convinced again it is gooti. But I also would like to see a second male. As soon as I received it I will study it. The problem is, though, on Saturday we leave for a short vacation. Hopefully I will have been able to study it before.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Marcello |
Posted on 29-04-2013 20:12
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Member Location: Padua - Northeast Italy Posts: 577 Joined: 01.07.12 |
Hi Ruud! Yes, from the genitalia shot it look like identic! You have done really a great work. I think the package will come before Saturday Otherwise ... we will wait after the vacations, no problem.Thanks again Ruud! Ciao, Marcello http://www.flickr...loconsolo/ |
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