Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Tipula vittata
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| Sundew |
Posted on 29-04-2013 17:08
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3939 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Hello, This weekend I saw this Tipulid male in the same swampy place east of Berlin where I photographed similar females ovipositing in the mud some years ago. What about Tipula lateralis? Thanks for help. Sundew Sundew attached the following image:  [194.86Kb] Edited by Sundew on 01-06-2013 21:24 |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 29-04-2013 19:11
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14534 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Sundew! Sundew wrote: Tipula lateralis? I think so. Saw the first one here in Ostwestfalen last week in a damp place at a meadow creek. This is usually the earliest Tipula species here in spring. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 01-05-2013 20:26
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3939 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Well, as to the white line on the wings I meanwhile tend to T. vittata! |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 01-05-2013 20:51
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14534 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Sundew! Sundew wrote: Well, as to the white line on the wings I meanwhile tend to T. vittata! You may be right. Compared to the male I photographed this afternoon, also the abdomen seems too light. Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [47.27Kb] Edited by Juergen Peters on 01-05-2013 20:52 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 01-05-2013 21:22
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3939 Joined: 28.07.07 |
There are more important differences. T. lateralis and T. vittata belong to different subgenera, Yamatotipula and Acutipula. http://www.bugsan...%20p1.html says: "The Yamatotipula sub-genus is identified by the thin line running down the top of the thorax from just behind the head." This line in the middle of the thorax can be seen in your photo. Also the wing colouration is quite different. The T. vittata wings are described "The wings have 'smoky' areas along the leading and trailing edges separated by a strikingly white streak at the wing tip. This one also sports a prominent dark 'Y' shaped vein towards the wing trailing edge." This goes with my upper picture fine.
Edited by Sundew on 01-05-2013 21:22 |
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| clovis |
Posted on 02-05-2013 10:12
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 942 Joined: 08.06.10 |
I agree on T (Acutipula) vittata for the first one and T (Yamatotipula) sp. for the second one  |
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