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Drosophilidae ?
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| ole |
Posted on 04-01-2013 18:11
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Member Location: copenhagen /Denmark Posts: 857 Joined: 29.11.07 |
Yesterday at the coast in dense grass & herbs. aprox 5mm. Thanks, Ole ole attached the following image: ![]() [103.7Kb] Edited by ole on 04-01-2013 18:12 |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 04-01-2013 21:24
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7353 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Looks very like Scaptomyza graminum
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| ole |
Posted on 04-01-2013 22:08
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Member Location: copenhagen /Denmark Posts: 857 Joined: 29.11.07 |
Thank you very much, Tony! Greetings Ole |
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| ole |
Posted on 04-01-2013 22:45
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Member Location: copenhagen /Denmark Posts: 857 Joined: 29.11.07 |
Hello again Tony. All the pictures I see of Scaptomyza graminum shows gray Scutum with narrow dark center stripe. This is reddish brown with broad diffuse center stripe - it's just variation or ...? |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 05-01-2013 01:24
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7353 Joined: 19.11.04 |
The photos don't show all the key characters. However, it's got four rows of acrostichals and the apical scutellars are shorter than the laterals, so I'd still go with graminum, but it would be good to get an expert's opinion. Paul?
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 05-01-2013 21:14
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
A proper lateral view would reveal a lot...
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| ole |
Posted on 08-01-2013 20:29
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Member Location: copenhagen /Denmark Posts: 857 Joined: 29.11.07 |
Hi Paul I´ll remember "next time".... Thank you! Greetings, Ole |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 09-01-2013 11:32
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Perhaps Hirtodrosophila cameraria...
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| ole |
Posted on 09-01-2013 22:04
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Member Location: copenhagen /Denmark Posts: 857 Joined: 29.11.07 |
Thanks again. Paul![]() I Keep it as cf Hirtodrosophila cameraria then. Greetings Ole |
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| djo |
Posted on 11-01-2013 10:01
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Member Location: Edinburgh, UK Posts: 192 Joined: 16.05.11 |
Sorry, not Hirtodrosophila cameraria. From memory, I think 4 rows of acrostichal setulae would be wrong. However, 2 ventral branches on the arista and the presence of a pre-apical bristle on the mid leg is certainly wrong. Also the overall 'feel' of it is not Cameraria (too narrow / lightly built) I would certainly go with Scaptomyza (which I don't know well, but probably not pallida). Apparently anterior dorsocentral closer to suture than to posterior dorsocentral and only 2 katepisternal setae would confirm scaptomyza. Another possibility might be Lordiphosa (4 rows acrostical setulae), but again katepisternals would need to be seen |
| ole |
Posted on 11-01-2013 13:42
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Member Location: copenhagen /Denmark Posts: 857 Joined: 29.11.07 |
Thanks alot, Darren! From this I learn always to take a lateral pict! Drosophilidae indet. is the only thing I´m sure of now ![]() Greetings, Ole Edited by ole on 11-01-2013 13:43 |
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