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 Suillia variegata --> Suillia similis
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| Auratus |
Posted on 28-11-2010 13:23
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Member Location: Edam - Netherlands Posts: 428 Joined: 24.05.10 |
If i am not mistaken, these wings belong to S. variegata. For determination, i used the online keys of this site again, but one thing is not clear to me. The key states: Cross veins and radial vein shaded with a subapical suffusion across distal area of longutudinal veins. The shading of the cross veins is obvious, as is the shading of the radial vein. What part is meant with subapical suffusion across distal area of the longitudinal veins? Can anyone indicate that to me? Thanks in advance. Auratus attached the following image:  [131.37Kb] Edited by Auratus on 05-12-2010 15:31 Greetings, Jan |
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| Auratus |
Posted on 28-11-2010 13:24
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Member Location: Edam - Netherlands Posts: 428 Joined: 24.05.10 |
Second wing
Auratus attached the following image:  [123.73Kb] Greetings, Jan |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 28-11-2010 13:36
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
No, this is not variegata. Please, look at the pics of variegata in the gallary or just google them. You'll see that the dark area's in the wing are very typical. But there are more Suiilia with marked wings. Often de cross veins are more or less darkened. Sometimes also the end of the longitudinal veins, as is obvious with the fly in your photo. Do you have more photo's? ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Auratus |
Posted on 28-11-2010 13:57
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Member Location: Edam - Netherlands Posts: 428 Joined: 24.05.10 |
Thanks Ruud, i see where i went wrong. Mesopleuron and pteropleuron are bare, so variegata is excluded. Difference in wing coloration is also clear now. I think i understand what is meant with subapical suffusion across distal area of the longitudinal veins, because variegate seems to have much more coloration on the tip of the wings. I will try again.... Greetings, Jan |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 28-11-2010 16:36
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2443 Joined: 05.01.06 |
I see that this specimen is pinned ! Maybe you can make other pics showing the head, mesonotum + scutellum and lateral body parts ? Andrzej Dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences. Poland |
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| Auratus |
Posted on 03-12-2010 14:27
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Member Location: Edam - Netherlands Posts: 428 Joined: 24.05.10 |
Finally had time to make the requested photographs. 1. Scutellum Auratus attached the following image:  [148.2Kb] Greetings, Jan |
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| Auratus |
Posted on 03-12-2010 14:27
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Member Location: Edam - Netherlands Posts: 428 Joined: 24.05.10 |
2. Head
Auratus attached the following image:  [131.46Kb] Greetings, Jan |
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| Auratus |
Posted on 03-12-2010 14:28
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Member Location: Edam - Netherlands Posts: 428 Joined: 24.05.10 |
3. Scutum
Auratus attached the following image:  [143.25Kb] Edited by Auratus on 03-12-2010 14:28 Greetings, Jan |
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| Auratus |
Posted on 03-12-2010 14:29
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Member Location: Edam - Netherlands Posts: 428 Joined: 24.05.10 |
And the last one. If mor pictures are needed, let me know. 4. Abdomen Auratus attached the following image:  [153.02Kb] Greetings, Jan |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 03-12-2010 18:08
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2443 Joined: 05.01.06 |
hmm, I would say S. similis if frons is dull 
Dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences. Poland |
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| Auratus |
Posted on 03-12-2010 19:43
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Member Location: Edam - Netherlands Posts: 428 Joined: 24.05.10 |
Thanks Andrzej. S. similis is of course missing from the online keys, until now my only source for determination. Dull frons you say. Does that mean dusted or just not shiny? When i compare the frons to the frons of the only other Suillia i have so far, S. pallida, they are equally dull i would say. Greetings, Jan |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 03-12-2010 23:17
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2443 Joined: 05.01.06 |
yes ! dusted not shiny ! 
Dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences. Poland |
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| Auratus |
Posted on 05-12-2010 15:32
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Member Location: Edam - Netherlands Posts: 428 Joined: 24.05.10 |
Andrzej thanks agian. Suillia similis it will be.
Greetings, Jan |
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