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I'm becoming confused with Polistes species. I read somewhere that P. dominulus and P. gallicus should be considered as the same species. Also, I have no idea if having green or black compound eyes occurs in the same species or it is a sign of gender. Here are three pictures I have classified as P. dominulus but I doubt it is right.

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... the second one, which is much smaller than the first
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Polistes gallicus and dominulus are two species. Above, you found 2 males, below a female. Photo ID of males is not really possible, below may be a female of dominulus (but I am not really sure). Males always have an all yellow face, females a black/yellow color pattern.

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Thank you, Christian. Thus, you confirm that all males of P. gallicus and P. dominulus have green eyes and yellow faces?
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All Polistes males have yellow faces, and green eyes is an effect of special light and may occur in many wasp species. So a species recognition is not possible for me. But gallicus and dominulus are the most probable species.

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I had a new, more detailed look to your wasps. The female is surely a Polistes gallicus (former foederatus). For males, gallicus also is the most probable possiblity, by form of head and clypeus. As I told, ID by photos is difficult, but i am quite sure.
If you agree, I will use these photos for your gallery.

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22.08.14 18:49
espace interoculaire=spac
e between eyes, thus frons including orbits. 2nd translation is OK.

21.08.14 15:51
Help again for 2 French words pls espace interlocaire - orbit? ecorces des arbres - bark of the tree? Thx

18.08.14 15:25
Thanks Stephane

15.08.14 21:29
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15.08.14 15:44
so looking at another eg Wangen (Parafacialia) 1.5 – bis 1.75 mals so breit wie das 3. Fühlerglied = Parafacialia 1.5 to 1.75 times as broad as the 3rd antennal segment (postpedicel)

14.08.14 15:26
You read my mind - I was wondering about that too

11.08.14 19:03
And nouns in German always begin with a Capital letter, whatever their place ! That was further misleading ! Shock

11.08.14 15:26
Thank you Stephane - I thought that was a full stop! I wondered why there was a single word!

10.08.14 10:14
e.g : "Der Abstand der inneren Augenrander entspricht etwa der 4fachen Breite des 3. FĂĽhlerglied." (Distance between inner eyes margin about 4 times as broad as 3rd antennal segment)

10.08.14 09:53
Must be "...des 3. + [Name]." which means "of the 3rd [name]" ; the point after a number is the mark of ordinal numbers in German !

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