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 Gray Muscids with partially reddish legs
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 22-11-2007 23:27
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13651 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello! Three male Phaonias (?) from today in our garden/at our house (Ostwestfalen/Germany). All the same species? Thanks in advance! Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [37.16Kb] Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 22-11-2007 23:28
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13651 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Same species?
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 22-11-2007 23:28
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13651 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Another individual.
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 23-11-2007 09:58
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 Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1799 Joined: 14.01.06 |
The middle one's got the Phaonia bristle.
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 23-11-2007 16:19
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13651 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Susan! Susan R Walter wrote: The middle one's got the Phaonia bristle. Thanks! Not the first time I have read here about the "Phaonia bristle", but still I'm not sure where to look for it...  . I have no such specialized literature to look into, so please could you or someone else mark it on the photo or explain where to find it? Many thanks!
Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 23-11-2007 18:12
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Given the visible characters, my guess is Phaonia scutellata, but I can't be sure. The "Phaonia bristle" is the strong posterodorsal seta on apical third of hind tibia. Stephane. |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 23-11-2007 18:34
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13651 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Stephane! Stephane Lebrun wrote: Given the visible characters, my guess is Phaonia scutellata, but I can't be sure. The "Phaonia bristle" is the strong posterodorsal seta on apical third of hind tibia. Many thanks! But I must admit that I still can't see an especially strong bristle on the hind tibia on pic #2 . I see many bristles on all femurs, but no special on the tibia... Or is it the one marked with an arrow? Does it belong to the tibia?
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 23-11-2007 19:26
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
I have to correct my guess : I think it is Phaonia tuguriorum rather than P. scutellata judging by the frons width. The "Phaonia bristle" is above the one you marked (wich is an apical bristle on t3). I marked it in blue. Stephane Lebrun attached the following image:  [19.19Kb] Stephane. |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 23-11-2007 19:32
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13651 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Stephane! Stephane Lebrun wrote: I have to correct my guess : I think it is Phaonia tuguriorum rather than P. scutellata judging by the frons width. The "Phaonia bristle" is above the one you marked (wich is an apical bristle on t3). I marked it in blue. Thanks again! Now it is clear. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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but don't see the image in the post.
