Gallery Links
Users Online
· Guests Online: 37

· Members Online: 2
Amee, Manu70

· Total Members: 5,060
· Newest Member: Amee
Forum Threads
Theme Switcher
Switch to:
Last Seen Users
· AmeeOnline
· Manu70Online
· Reimund Ley< 5 mins
· John Carr00:08:54
· BeJoCo00:25:28
· weia00:32:51
· piros00:36:47
· JWV00:49:21
· karl701:06:43
· ivo01:32:27
Latest Photo Additions
View Thread
Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Print Thread
Images from Japan. Brachycera or Nematocera
Xespok
#1 Print Post
Posted on 06-10-2005 10:26
User Avatar

Member

Location: Debrecen, Hungary
Posts: 5551
Joined: 02.03.05

Normally I can separate most Diptera to at least these two categories, but with this one I have problems. Unfortunately the image is not fine enough to count the number of antenna segments. The antennae are very long, which hints to Nematocera, the overall structure however suggests Asilidae or Empididae.
www.diptera.info/forim/5-0819-1.jpg
Edited by Xespok on 06-10-2005 16:19
 
Teglagyar u. 30.
Paul Beuk
#2 Print Post
Posted on 06-10-2005 11:42
User Avatar

Super Administrator

Location: Netherlands
Posts: 19403
Joined: 11.05.04

Unfortunately I cannot make out the wing venation because the essential part is blotted out by the darker background. Any chance it might be more clearly visible in the original image?
Further, it reminds me of Trichopeza longicornis of the Empididae but I do not know if that species occurs in Japan or even related genera/species.
Paul

- - - -

Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info
 
diptera.info
Xespok
#3 Print Post
Posted on 06-10-2005 16:36
User Avatar

Member

Location: Debrecen, Hungary
Posts: 5551
Joined: 02.03.05

This genus does not occur in Honshu.

Based on the database the following genera should occur:

Empidinae: Empis, Rhamphomyia, Hilara, Oreogeton,

Clinocerinae: Trichoclinocera, Acanthoclinocera, Heleodromia, Brachystoma

Hybotinae: Hybos, Syneches, Chillcottomyia,

Ocydromiinae: Bicellaria, Euthyneura, Euthyneura, Leptopeza, Trichina,

Tachydromiinae: Symballophthalmus, \

Hemerodromiinae: Xanthodromia, Chelifera, Dolichocephala

Is this Trichopeza Clinocerinae?

But I think there might be quite a few species of Empididae to be described in Japan.


 
Teglagyar u. 30.
Paul Beuk
#4 Print Post
Posted on 06-10-2005 20:28
User Avatar

Super Administrator

Location: Netherlands
Posts: 19403
Joined: 11.05.04

Of all these genera, the only one I do not really know is Oreogeton. Trichopeza is currently placed in the subfamily Trichopezinae and not in Oreogetoninae, though...
Paul

- - - -

Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info
 
diptera.info
Xespok
#5 Print Post
Posted on 08-10-2005 03:26
User Avatar

Member

Location: Debrecen, Hungary
Posts: 5551
Joined: 02.03.05

Paul,

I forgot to mention that I have another image of this fly, which probably helps you out with the wing venation.

http://xespok.net...dae?page=3

Also, could this fly not belong to Xylophagidae? I have not considered that option yet.
 
Teglagyar u. 30.
Paul Beuk
#6 Print Post
Posted on 10-10-2005 08:37
User Avatar

Super Administrator

Location: Netherlands
Posts: 19403
Joined: 11.05.04

Hmm, no Xylophagidae as far as I can tell, but I cannot really make a good empid of it either. I will get back to this one.
Paul

- - - -

Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info
 
diptera.info
Xespok
#7 Print Post
Posted on 01-01-2008 19:46
User Avatar

Member

Location: Debrecen, Hungary
Posts: 5551
Joined: 02.03.05

I raise this very old thread, maybe some new eyes can tell us more.
Gabor Keresztes

Japan Wildlife Gallery
Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery
 
Teglagyar u. 30.
jorgemotalmeida
#8 Print Post
Posted on 01-01-2008 19:51
User Avatar

Member

Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL
Posts: 9296
Joined: 05.06.06

it seems an empidoid..
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/superegnum
John Carr
#9 Print Post
Posted on 10-01-2013 00:24
User Avatar

Super Administrator

Location: Massachusetts, USA
Posts: 10487
Joined: 22.10.10

I vote Blephariceridae. (Found this old thread searching on something unrelated.)
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31715949@N00
Xespok
#10 Print Post
Posted on 10-01-2013 07:05
User Avatar

Member

Location: Debrecen, Hungary
Posts: 5551
Joined: 02.03.05

Yes, Blephariceridae it will be, possibly Agathon sp. Thanks for solving this old mystery.
Gabor Keresztes

Japan Wildlife Gallery
Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery
 
Teglagyar u. 30.
jorgemotalmeida
#11 Print Post
Posted on 27-10-2013 15:56
User Avatar

Member

Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL
Posts: 9296
Joined: 05.06.06

I agree. It is a Blephariceridae! Great find. And you can see the secondary veins. Wink
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/superegnum
Jump to Forum:
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
Brachycera sp1 from Moorea, French Polynesia Diptera (adults) 5 14-09-2025 11:30
Brachycera sp2 from Moorea, French Polynesia Diptera (adults) 1 13-09-2025 12:47
Beginner identification resources (African Brachycera - family level) What should I use? 3 07-08-2025 17:32
Nematocera ID => Lasiopteridi (Cecidomyiidae) Diptera (adults) 3 10-06-2025 15:19
Nematocera Diptera (adults) 6 02-06-2025 10:55
Date and time
16 September 2025 13:06
Login
Username

Password



Not a member yet?
Click here to register.

Forgotten your password?
Request a new one here.
Temporary email?
Due to fact this site has functionality making use of your email address, any registration using a temporary email address will be rejected.

Paul
Donate
Please, help to make
Diptera.info
possible and enable
further improvements!
Latest Articles
Syrph the Net
Those who want to have access to the Syrph the Net database need to sign the
License Agreement -
Click to Download


Public files of Syrph the Net can be downloaded HERE

Last updated: 25.08.2011
Shoutbox
You must login to post a message.

08.09.25 16:17
Anyone has this article'A REVISION OF SPECIES OF THE GENUS CADREMA WALKER (DIPTERA, CHLOROPIDAE) FROM ISLANDS IN THE INDIAN OCEAN'? Smile

24.08.25 16:55
Thanks for your proposal, but for me this option is ineligible.

15.08.25 10:15
For those specialists not active on Facebook, I just ask to consider to join our group on FB. Please, be aware that it is not necessary at all to be active on FB outside the diptera group. Actually, n

15.08.25 10:13
We received requests to get permission to ask for ID in our Facebook group, https://www.facebo
ok.com/groups/1798
95332035235/ Until now we pointed to diptera.info, but since Paul's passing we not

23.06.25 18:10
If you have some spare money, there is a copy (together with keys to pupae and larvae) for sale by Hermann L. Strack, Loguivy Plougras, France

23.06.25 11:18
Appreciate it, Tony Irwin! I got the hint to use the key next to Langton and Pinder key for females of Chironomidae. So no specific queries, except the keys... I will keep this on my list and hope th

19.06.25 15:33
I have the hard copy book, if you have any specific queries, but I'm not scanning the 500+ pages!

02.06.25 18:26
Anyone has "Chironomidae of the Holarctic region. Keys and diagnoses. Part 3. Adult Males Entomologica Scandinavica Supplement 34"? smolwaarneming@gma
il.com

28.05.25 20:57
I have Russian Coenosia. nikita6510@ya.ru

28.05.25 12:25
Is someone able to share with me "A key to the Russian species of the genus Coenosia"?

Render time: 2.48 seconds | 240,705,950 unique visits