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Mythicomyiidae: Platypygus ridibundus
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Posted on 23-06-2007 21:03
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Taken in Parque Natural de Sierra de Huetor, Granada, Southern Spain. 1500 m, June 2007.

About 3-4 mm length

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EDITED:

Another view:

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Any idea about genus?

The last photo:

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thx
Edited by javig on 26-06-2007 21:47
 
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wow!! This is the FLY. Smile It seems a very strange Stratiomyidae! Acroceridae have no closed wings like this...
 
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No, not Stratiomyidae, but another family.
It is called Mythicomyiidae, and it used to be in the Bombyliidae as subfamily Mythicomyiinae!
Maybe David can tell us more about it?
Greetings,
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new family for diptera! Smile
Van Veen could help as well. Smile
 
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and I'm curious about this one... who can put a genus in this fly? Smile
 
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Added another shot from different angle...

thx
 
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Certainly Mythicomyiidae. Unfortunately i cannot see wing venation clearly so deducing genus is not easy (it is a species i have never seen). My best guess (and it is a guess untill i see a specimen) is Glabellula, the only species recorded in Spain is sufflava but there are likely to be undescribed species in this underworked family of tiny flies (my favourites so very please to see these images).
 
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Thanks David! (and Gerard Grin)

I post another photo (I don't have more Sad) I think the wing venation is a bit more clear here...
 
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Your third photo shows the wing venation much better and i can now see that it cannot be Glabellula. Jorge, although the wing venation fits Cyrtisiopsis , this genus has a more prominent backward extention of the rear of the buccal cavity, also, as far as i know, they tend to have long a proboscis (see Oosterbroek 2006 fig 142). Javig's fly is a Platypygus. There is only one species listed for Spain vis ridibundus. I have a female specimen myself (i was away from my collection yesterday so unable to do a direct comparison), also from Sierra Nevada area, which looks much the same except it has blackish mesonotal stripes, a longer proboscis and pale frons spots joined to yellow on face. My specimen was named ridibundus by David Greathead but it does not fit the description well. This genus is sorely in need of revision and there are certainly unrecognised species in Spain, so it is unwise to name to species untill this is done.
 
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I pass on the following from Neal Evenhuis

"It is the common and widespread Platypygus
ridibundus
. The thoracic pattern is variable and
can be darker in some specimens."
 
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Thank you very much, David! Grin
 
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19.11.14 16:42
Hi!

19.11.14 16:28
hello everyone

17.11.14 16:50
Thanks to everyone

17.11.14 10:36
Grabdornen, surely spines on the cerci for egg-laying in soil or sand?

14.11.14 11:00
graben -> to dig. First request was for Grabdomen which is 'burial dome', LoL.

14.11.14 10:36
The literal translation of Grabdornen is grave (Grab ) thorns (Dornen). I think the best English translation is "spines".

13.11.14 16:42
Legrohr am Ende (cerci) mit kraftigen , nach oben gerichteten Grabdornen

13.11.14 15:46
Send me the complete sentence, plz. I have no pdf or printed version of Hennig on the Muscidae.

13.11.14 15:24
Its from the Hennig 1964 key Female 77(78), its to do with the ovipositor there is a figure can I just use spines or is there another word?

12.11.14 09:07
grabdomen?

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