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Pallopteridae from June (17.06.11): Palloptera umbellatarum? --> confirmed
Juergen Peters
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Posted on 11-12-2011 19:17
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Hello!

Or are there similar species? About 4.5 mm, at at forest path (northwest Germany).
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Do you have picture of thorax from side view? There are two possibilities: Palloptera umbellatarum and Toxoneura modesta. P.u. seems to be more probably according to wing color pattern, but I am not absolutely sure without seeing setae on thorax from side view...
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Hello, Libor!

libor wrote:
Do you have picture of thorax from side view?


No, sorry, this is the only picture I could take.

There are two possibilities: Palloptera umbellatarum and Toxoneura modesta.


Interesting, thanks! I did not know of Toxoneura modesta. I guess this is a newer synonym of Palloptera modesta?
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Yes, Jürgen. I follow the nomenclature of Ozerov. T. modesta = P. modesta. I will chek my collection inthe museum tomorrow and maybe it help us to identify your animal exactly.
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libor wrote:
Yes, Jürgen. I follow the nomenclature of Ozerov. T. modesta = P. modesta. I will chek my collection inthe museum tomorrow and maybe it help us to identify your animal exactly.


Thanks a lot, Libor!
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So, for 95%, you can call your animal P. umbellatarum, Juergen!
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Hello Juergen,

In Toxoneura modesta there is no spot on the anal vein. So T. modesta is not an option.
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Hello, Libor and Jan Willem,

thanks once more!
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