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| crex |
Posted on 19-08-2006 18:42
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 Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
From today, aprox 65 km NW of Stockholm, Sweden. I will not try to guess family and make a fool of myself ... :) Would be grateful for ID. TIA! Edit: Changed subject (Grey fly) crex attached the following image:  [91.24Kb] Edited by crex on 01-09-2006 22:44 |
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| crex |
Posted on 19-08-2006 18:43
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
A view of abdomen.
crex attached the following image:  [84.44Kb] |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 20-08-2006 15:32
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7286 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Muscidae. Helina female. Possibly depuncta, but I haven't got access to reference material to check this at the moment. Perhaps Kahis can confirm or reject this? 
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 20-08-2006 15:48
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 Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Do you think your grey fly and my grey fly are the same? http://www.dipter...ad_id=2304 Susan |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 20-08-2006 16:18
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7286 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Hi Susan Apart from yours being a male, and a bit out of focus ( ), there is a significant difference in that yours has 4 rather than 3 post-sutural dorsocentrals. I'd say it was a muscid and probably Phaoniinae and possibly Helina, but I wouldn't like to say more than that.
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 20-08-2006 18:29
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Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Blast and [insert swearword of choice here]  - stuff I should remember to do every time. If Kahis's figures are right and it takes 10K specimens to get to grips with diptera, I calculate it's going to take me about 20 years at my current rate.  Thanks Tony - I'll get there eventually, especially with the fab forum's help. 
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| crex |
Posted on 21-08-2006 06:37
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
Thank you Tony. Kahis? |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 17-11-2006 09:46
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Helina, possibly depuncta is the best I can do. H. depuncta is usually rather yellowish, but not always.
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| crex |
Posted on 17-11-2006 09:55
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
Thanx Kahis! |
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