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| bobgaia |
Posted on 26-02-2005 20:49
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 Member Location: Charente maritime Posts: 27 Joined: 12.11.04 |
Hello, Still a parasite of Timarcha larva, perhaps dipterous....or not ? It seems dried... ..died...  ....?10 mm found in France, Chervettes (17) 24/02/2005 bobgaia attached the following image:  [115.5Kb] Edited by bobgaia on 09-11-2023 18:10 |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 27-02-2005 17:14
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I do not hink it can be anything else than a dipterous parasitoid. My books with pupae illustrations are all in the office so I will check when I get to work on Monday. Maybe a tachinid?
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 27-02-2005 20:12
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Looks very like a tachinid puparium to me - but i can't quite find any image that matches it exactly. Both Peleteria & Phasia appear to have species that produce those long 'horns'. If anyone has Joachim Ziegler's paper and has better German than me they might be able to shed more light on the subject.  Chris R. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 28-02-2005 10:37
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Macquartia's are tachinids parasitising on Chrysomelidae. I will try to find out if there are images of there puparia around somewhere.
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 28-02-2005 12:03
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7703 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Joachim Ziegler's excellent work in Studia Dipterologica - Supplement 3 (1998) figures Macquartia tenebricosa in a few places and it does appear that they too have projections like the one in the picture. Our database lists Macquartia dispar as patasitizing Timarcha spp. but it is possible the other Macquartia spp. do also. Chris R. |
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| bobgaia |
Posted on 11-03-2005 19:11
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Member Location: Charente maritime Posts: 27 Joined: 12.11.04 |
Hello, Today 5:15 pm To be continued...... bobgaia attached the following image:  [115.99Kb] Edited by bobgaia on 09-11-2023 18:00 |
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| bobgaia |
Posted on 12-03-2005 21:41
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Member Location: Charente maritime Posts: 27 Joined: 12.11.04 |
Problem with the wings...
bobgaia attached the following image:  [45.46Kb] Edited by bobgaia on 09-11-2023 17:56 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 14-03-2005 09:26
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19123 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Oke, you did your best with the pictures, so I can give it a try. It is a Tachinid (most likely), and given the pictures and the now host, my best guess it is a species of Macquartia, most probably M. dispar female. If you can make a picture of the head in profile, I can be more sure. Theo Zeegers |
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| bobgaia |
Posted on 15-03-2005 20:38
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Member Location: Charente maritime Posts: 27 Joined: 12.11.04 |
Thanks, Theo, for you answer. Head bobgaia attached the following image:  [33.06Kb] Edited by bobgaia on 09-11-2023 17:53 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 16-03-2005 21:34
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19123 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Thanks for the picture. I am prtetty sure that this is a female Macquartia dispar. It could also be M. viridana, which can hardly be told apart in the female sex. However, viridana is very rare (and dispar just not so common). Thanks for the results Theo Zeegers |
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| bobgaia |
Posted on 17-03-2005 23:45
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Member Location: Charente maritime Posts: 27 Joined: 12.11.04 |
If you want Theo I can send the specimen to you..... abdomen bobgaia attached the following image:  [35.26Kb] Edited by bobgaia on 09-11-2023 17:54 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 01-04-2005 19:51
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19123 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Bob Congratulions ! It is a female Macquartia viridana after all ! Quite a rare species, so less so in southern France. All Macquartia are paratitoids of Chrysomelidae. M. viridana was not yet known (to my knowledge) from Timarcha. M. dispar was. Thanks Theo |
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| bobgaia |
Posted on 02-04-2005 13:08
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Member Location: Charente maritime Posts: 27 Joined: 12.11.04 |
Thank you very much, Theo, for the identification. More renseignement about my specimen. I found the pupe in grass, on the ground, slightly buried at the base of a telephone pole. February 24, 2005 in Chervettes (17), Charente-Maritime, France. Thanks...  Bob Edited by bobgaia on 06-12-2023 14:52 |
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