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 Cinochira atra (was: Little black one for id!)
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| Klaas |
Posted on 29-11-2008 21:03
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This male fly is only 2,6 mm. First I thought it might be Rhinophoridae, because it has no swing - more a stiff appearance. But perhaps it is Muscidae-Hydrotaea species or Anthomyiidae? Thanks for any help with this one. With regards, Klaas Picture one Klaas attached the following image:  [119.66Kb] Edited by ChrisR on 30-11-2008 17:34 |
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| Klaas |
Posted on 29-11-2008 21:04
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picture 2
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| Klaas |
Posted on 29-11-2008 21:05
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picture 3
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 29-11-2008 21:20
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18546 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Indeed, no Rhinophoridae. SHould be very obvious to the experts, this one. Theo |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 29-11-2008 22:21
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Isn't it a nice row of meral bristles that I can see on the 1st picture ? Stephane. |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 29-11-2008 23:32
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
In that case, M only slightly bent, almost straight, ovipositor pincer-like and small size, maybe Cinochira atra (Tachinidae) ?
Edited by Stephane Lebrun on 29-11-2008 23:33 Stephane. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 29-11-2008 23:43
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9229 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Very unusual fly!
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Klaas |
Posted on 30-11-2008 12:23
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Thank you Stephane and Theo These pictures are not my best work, but with some 'photoshopping' i destillated some more details of meron and head. Perhaps it contributes the suggestion of Stephane? Klaas pleurosternum, meron, remarkeble coxa leg 1 also Klaas attached the following image:  [110.48Kb] |
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| Klaas |
Posted on 30-11-2008 12:25
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the head
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 30-11-2008 13:35
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
I'm convinced this is Cinochira atra, but I suggest you to change the tiltle of your subject to get a confirmation. 
Stephane. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 30-11-2008 15:58
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18546 Joined: 21.07.04 |
My god, totally missed it. No doubt, Stephane is right. Just to be sure, can we see the abdominal tip from a dorsal point of view ? There should be a small pair of piercers present (as it seems to be a female ?) Theo |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 30-11-2008 17:20
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That's weird because I have looking at these photos and thinking "It could be a tachinid but ... naaa ... can't be!". Would be nice to have these for the gallery if they are confirmed  |
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| Klaas |
Posted on 30-11-2008 19:01
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Theo, from tip of abdomen i have no better image then what is showed allready. Some more info: It is found in a small forrest with Fraxinus and Quercus near streaming water, on a dead log of Fraxinus at the ground. I can't do much more, so i hope a brave dipterologist may tackle this one  Klaas |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 01-12-2008 08:42
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18546 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I think it is beyond reasonable doubt that this is Cinochira atra. KLaas, could you please PM me the date and locality ? SO far, about 5 records known from the Netherlands. Theo |
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