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 Mythicomyiidae - Cephalodromia or Cyrtisiopsis?
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| javig |
Posted on 02-09-2007 18:15
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 Member Location: Spain Posts: 222 Joined: 21.04.07 |
Hello, I have found this tiny fly (2,5 mm length) today. I have thought that they were the same species that I found in June (see Platypygus ridibundus in gallery: http://www.dipter...lbum_id=93). But later in the PC I see it's obviously a species different. Location: Sierra Nevada, Granada, Spain. 800 m. altitude. This is a Mythicomyiidae? A kind of Bombyliidae?   and this I think is the male:  thx Edited by javig on 08-09-2007 22:46 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 02-09-2007 19:40
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
yes. Mythicomyiidae! por favor, tu lo sabes que a quiero mucho.  The first photo is spectacular!!!! new lens?  |
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| Andre |
Posted on 02-09-2007 20:45
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 Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
Great sighting and pics. Also fits the thread Fly bubble blowing |
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| pierred |
Posted on 02-09-2007 21:48
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 Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1449 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Hello, Andre wrote: Great sighting and pics. Also fits the thread Fly bubble blowing I think one should make a link to this thread!! There is no reason for the link about our pictures to win about the bubbles... Pierre Duhem |
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 03-09-2007 09:15
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 Member Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 833 Joined: 17.06.06 |
The long head suggests Cephalodromia or Cyrtisiopsis but we need to see the wing venation to decide which, discal cell open or closed respectively. Former genus not recorded in Spain but this is no reason to exclude it. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 03-09-2007 10:02
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
~discal cell open, hence this must be Cephalodromia sp. |
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| javig |
Posted on 03-09-2007 19:45
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Member Location: Spain Posts: 222 Joined: 21.04.07 |
Jorge, you have very good eyes! LOL this is a crop of one discarded photo, but show the wing venation a bit... poor quality   which is the discal cell?  thx |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 03-09-2007 20:00
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
and it has really a discal cell open! DISCAL CELL ... is below M vein. And it is open in this wing venation. Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 03-09-2007 20:03 |
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| javig |
Posted on 04-09-2007 18:58
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Member Location: Spain Posts: 222 Joined: 21.04.07 |
great thread the "bubble blowing" and a interesting mystery... then it's Cephalodromia? the wing venation match Cyrtosia? (3 species in Spain, also with discal cell open (S?guy)) |
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 05-09-2007 09:15
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Member Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 833 Joined: 17.06.06 |
as mentioned earlier, the long head (lower, rear corner extended backwards) suggests Cephalodromia, but i will put it no stronger than that. i do not think it is Cyrtosia (but would not be astonished if i was proved wrong), S?guy is not much help for Iberian species, or indeed French! His E perfectus is presumably Empidideicus hungaricus Thalhammar, 1911; his C. cinerea is Apolysis cinerea (in a different Family, Bombyliidae, Usiinae. If you want more confident identifications then you MUST collect specimens. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 05-09-2007 09:23
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
I would like to see these photos in gallery as Cephalodromia sp. with a (?) -- Cephalodromia sp. (?) -- it would be a pity if these great photos don't appear in gallery. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 08-09-2007 02:25
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Neal Evenhuis confirmed that this is Cephalodromia IF it has *REALLY* the discal cell open, as David Gibbs told correctly. According the photo, it seems that discal cell it's open, so it is almost sure about the genus - Cephalodromia sp. It would be great to have other photos to be certain 100%. |
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| javig |
Posted on 08-09-2007 22:45
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Member Location: Spain Posts: 222 Joined: 21.04.07 |
can you see the discal cell here? |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-09-2007 12:36
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
discal cell open. 100% free of doubts. |
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| nealevenhuis |
Posted on 22-02-2008 06:05
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Member Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 10 Joined: 29.04.07 |
That is what this is. Fantastic photo. i'm framing it! -Neal Evenhuis |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 22-02-2008 08:03
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Hey, Neal, I see your avatar got stranded... 
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 22-02-2008 12:20
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
i hope to find one Cephalodromia this year... |
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