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 Camilla cf. nigrifrons. S. Spain
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 12-10-2015 23:38
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 Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2354 Joined: 02.09.09 |
Photograph taken on 5 October, 2015 on the dining table of my house, in urban environment, in Motril, Granada, Spain. Immediate area of the Mediterranean coast. Apparent size with wings, about 2 mm Thanks for help! Maherjos attached the following image:  [71.94Kb] Edited by Maherjos on 18-11-2015 10:06 |
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 12-10-2015 23:38
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Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2354 Joined: 02.09.09 |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 13-10-2015 08:44
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 Super Administrator Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10414 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Ephydridae. Compare Psilopa nitidula in the gallery. There are many other European species not in the gallery. |
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 13-10-2015 09:32
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Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2354 Joined: 02.09.09 |
John Carr wrote: Ephydridae. Compare Psilopa nitidula in the gallery. There are many other European species not in the gallery. John Carr, I appreciate your help very much. At least we know the family to which it belongs. I've seen and compared those identified as Psilopa nitidula there in the gallery. No doubt they are similar. But I'm not able to determine their identity. Edit the title with your proposal, waiting for another specialist also want to give us feedback, Best wishes Jose Marin. |
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 17-11-2015 09:48
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Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2354 Joined: 02.09.09 |
A friend tells me the possibility that it could be small fly Camilla nigrifrons. Any thoughts on this? Cheers |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 17-11-2015 10:28
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Seems quite well possible, though there may be more MEditerranean species...
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 17-11-2015 11:35
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Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2354 Joined: 02.09.09 |
Paul Beuk wrote: Seems quite well possible, though there may be more MEditerranean species... It could be considered enough to be called the "Camilla cf.nigrifrons"? Thank you very much, Paul. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 17-11-2015 14:25
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Sure. If you still have the specimen I'd be happy to confirm it later.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 18-11-2015 10:20
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Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2354 Joined: 02.09.09 |
Paul Beuk wrote: Sure. If you still have the specimen I'd be happy to confirm it later. Unfortunately, this time the tiny fly was faster than me. Let me take the pictures, but not collect ....  The friend who suggested their possible identity, is preparing me the information about the genus Camillidae of which it is known in the Iberian peninsula. In moment availability of in this information, I will provide. Best wishes Jose Marin. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 18-11-2015 11:53
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
That would not be Miguel, would it? 
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| Maherjos |
Posted on 18-11-2015 19:43
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Member Location: Motril (Granada) España Posts: 2354 Joined: 02.09.09 |
Paul Beuk wrote: That would not be Miguel, would it? Heh, heh. The referred Miguel has a lot of knowledge but very little time available, or is very difficult enlist their help. The friend who informed me, only known me through the forum Infojardín where intervenes nicknamed Rufus. Lately it has been pretty dedicated to small flies, particularly drosophilae, and on several occasions has provided very interesting information. Regarding Camillidae species existing in the Iberian peninsula, this is the information you have provided me: In Spain we have a single genus in Camillidae, with 6 species. We used the following characteristics to reach our ID: - acutipennis: discarded because its wings end in a sharp angle - atrimana: discarded for the same reason as acutipennis - fuscipes: discarded because its femur 1 is never black, at most partially darkened - glabra: discarded for the same reason as fuscipes - nigrifrons: wings without sharp angle and femur 1 black, like my specimen. - sabroskyi: can't find any info about this species, described by Papp in 1982 Is this reasoning correct??  Best wishes José Marín. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 18-11-2015 20:18
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Hmm, I'd need to check my literature. I should have Papp's paper somewhere.
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