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Identification issue with an Heleomyzidae
Bscrl
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Posted on 12-09-2015 00:57
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Hello,

Here enclosed, a link to some pictures of an heleomyzidae which as been seen in the darkness of a bunker on the Col de Tende (in the Alpes at around 1800m high) at the border France/Italy.

I am not sure whether the picture will be sufficient to determine the genus/specie, but any clue or idea are welcome. Cool

http://www.insect...p;t=146559

Thanx for your help!

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Edited by Bscrl on 12-09-2015 00:59
 
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male of Gymnomus sp. Did you collect it?
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Andrzej wrote:
male of Gymnomus sp. Did you collect it?


Thanks a lot for your feedback, unfortunatly, i didn't collect it. awkward
Are you sure about the genus Gymnomus ?
Because someone suggested Scoliocentra (villosa (?)) because of the 'short' basitarsus.

Best Regards,

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Edited by Bscrl on 03-10-2015 20:39
 
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Mesopleuron bare! Isn't it? Smile
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Hello Andrzej,
Thanks a lot for your feedback.
As a beginner, i am not sure about what is called Mesopleuron, and since depending the authors, it seems that this term can be ambiguous, just to understand your question in the right way, i have a little adding question :
In the Fig 5 of the chapter "Thorax of Dipter" of http://www.giand....mp;lang=en, to which area (from 8 to 14) are you refering to ?

Many thanks again for your help Smile

-Bscrl-

 
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Here is the mesopleuron, nowadays mostly called the anepisternum.
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Thanks Paul for this precision
Then yes , as far as i can see on the pictures i've taken, the anepisternum of my heleomyzidae looks hairlessSmile
Is Gymnomus the only genus of Heleomyzidae having this characteristic ?
Edited by Bscrl on 04-10-2015 10:30
 
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In the key to nearctic Heleomyzidae, several genera have bare anepisternum.
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31715949@N00
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Is that key public ?

 
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Manual of Nearctic Diptera and other important Canadian publications:
http://www.esc-se...fcmono.php. Cyclorrhapha (including Heleomyzidae) are in volume 2.

Species of North American Heleomyzidae were revised in 1962: http://www.biodiv...0#/summary
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31715949@N00
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Thanx a lot for the link ! TumbsUp
Edited by Bscrl on 05-10-2015 12:09
 
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