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Bizarre Nematocera(?) from Java
Arp
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Posted on 18-05-2013 03:35
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Howdy,

While I'm here anyway, I might as well throw this one on the table. I know that I searched for it at the time (2010) and found some plausible group name for it, but seem to have misplaces/lost my notes Frown

Any pointers? Central Java, Indonesia, august 2010

Thanks! Arp
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Tipulidae s. lat.
 
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Hi John,

Okay, thanks, but how far does the "s.l." stretch? Last night I had a look again at the various families of Tipuloidea (Cylindrotomidae, Limoniidae, Pediciidae and Tipulidae - did I miss something?) and didn't stumble on any critters with the same posture and small head (hence I dropped back to Nematocera).

Unfortunately, on the lateral snapshots that I took the head is hidden behind the legs. Not sure at all if the barely visible longer structure is antennae or snout? I thought it to be the antenna, but if it is the snout you might be right with Tipulidae indeed.

The only similar images I could find yesterday are from this critter on Flickr (from Tasmania) - also without a name, and without a clear shot of the head. Female I suppose, where mine would be male.

I'm sure that, once we have a name, thousands of images will pop up. I did find images and a name before I'm sure, but seem to have lost my notes...

Thanks for thinking along Smile

P.S. This Tasmanian page has a teneral "Limoniidae" with a vaguely similar posture (but not quite as extreme).
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I'd start looking in the Limoniidae family, although I'm unfamiliar with oriental fauna.Wink
Best wishes, Niels-Jan Dek
 
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Hi Niels-Jan,

Thanks, yes I'm also betting it should be that general direction, but still can't seem to find anything close (with an name) ... I'll keep looking Smile

Cheers, Arp
 
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Posted on 21-05-2013 07:43
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Limoniidae, Conosia sp.
While others can't climb, using infinite pains,
I, gravity turning to jest,
Ascend, with all ease, perpendicular planes,
Rough or smooth, just as pleases me best.
 
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Posted on 22-05-2013 14:03
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This is a Limoniidae of the genus Styringomyia. It has 164 species, 10 on Java.
 
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Hi Dmitry & Pjotr,

Thanks a lot for your input - I'll try and find out more about both genera when I get home. I suspect it'll be hard to find data, but hey ... no pain, no gain Smile

Thanks & greetings, Arp
 
Dmitry Gavryushin
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Excuse me Pjotr but it's definitely not Styringomyia (I believe Clydonodozus spp. also look similar but have never seen them).
While others can't climb, using infinite pains,
I, gravity turning to jest,
Ascend, with all ease, perpendicular planes,
Rough or smooth, just as pleases me best.
 
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I am also looking for an ID for this fly, so I am contributing another image that might help.

Dave
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