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 Tabanidae > Silvius alpinus 
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| nick upton | 
 Posted on 22-03-2010 22:47 
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Member Location: Wiltshire, UK Posts: 828 Joined: 12.03.10  | 
Can anyone confirm that this large pale coloured Tabanid with psychedelic green eyes is Philipomyia aprica? 16.7.09 Lower Anso valley, Spanish Pyrenees. Nick Upton nick upton attached the following image: ![]() [125.52Kb] Edited by nick upton on 27-11-2010 16:28  | 
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| phil withers | 
 Posted on 22-03-2010 23:49 
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08  | 
I doubt it - Philipomyia aprica is very dark. | 
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| nick upton | 
 Posted on 23-03-2010 00:05 
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Member Location: Wiltshire, UK Posts: 828 Joined: 12.03.10  | 
Thanks Phil.   Might it be P. graeca then which looks paler and is known in the Pyrenees according to one report? Nick  | 
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| Lukasz Mielczarek | 
 Posted on 23-03-2010 08:58 
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 Member Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 498 Joined: 27.09.06  | 
Silvius sp. ! | 
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| nick upton | 
 Posted on 23-03-2010 11:40 
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Member Location: Wiltshire, UK Posts: 828 Joined: 12.03.10  | 
Many thanks Lukasz.  Now I've found some photos of Silvius, I can see you are absolutely right, but I can't find much information online to know what species this might be in the Spanish Pyrenees (not very high, maybe 800m).  The only spanish record/photo I have found is for Silvius alpina  (also known as Silvius vituli) and it looks just right, but I don't know if there are other, similar species it could be.  Maybe someone can help? Nick  | 
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| libor | 
 Posted on 23-03-2010 19:29 
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Member Location: western Bohemia Posts: 1291 Joined: 30.05.09  | 
There are two very similar yellowish Silvius species: S. alpinus and S. algirus. According my knowledge, S. algirus is not known from Spain. I did not see this species, so I cannot solve with certainity ID of this animal, but probably Silvius alpinus. Libor | 
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| nick upton | 
 Posted on 23-03-2010 23:39 
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Member Location: Wiltshire, UK Posts: 828 Joined: 12.03.10  | 
Many thanks for your advice Libor.  I can't find any S. algirus records in Spain on the internet, either, so this probably is Silvius alpinus based on the information I have now. Nick  | 
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