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Large Muscid (?)
Juergen Peters
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Posted on 10-08-2006 00:06
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Hello!

These very big (15-20 mm) flies (80% males, 20% females) can be found at tree trunks on darker places in the forest or at night in our garden now (Ostwestfalen, Germany). Is this a Phaonia species (I thought of P. variegata)? Thanks!

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Susan R Walter
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Posted on 10-08-2006 07:05
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Jurgen

Hairy eyes, so not Phaonia or Muscina. My thought is Mydaea, or perhaps Polietes? Not Graphomyia because 4th vein does not bend up sharply?

This is all guess work on my part, and from memory, so do wait for someone with some real knowledge.
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Tony Irwin
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I'd say Phaonia errans male. (Hairy eyes are OK in Phaonia.)
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Susan R Walter
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Tony

Thanks for the note re eyes. It's always worth making a mistake on the forum if the feedback is informative. It all helps with the learning process.Smile


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Hello, Susan and Tony!

Tony Irwin wrote:
I'd say Phaonia errans male. (Hairy eyes are OK in Phaonia.)


Many thanks!
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